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I can't get over how fucking awful Mythal actually was.
Don't read below this if you haven't finished Veilguard, lmao.
The fact that Solas wore her vallaslin, and somehow still saw her as a friend, and trusted and loved her enough to do everything she asked of him makes me so angry/sad. Friends don't make their friends wear slave markings on their faces. Him being called her lapdog by Elgar'nan makes so much more sense.
And then Solas goes and accepts the blame for decisions that she made, and then manipulated him into agreeing to, and she fucking accepts no fault! If you confront her about the Blight when you meet her in the Crossroads, she basically just says, "not my problem."
And he blames himself for her death because he couldn't convince her to walk away from the Evanuris! But really, sorry Mythal, that's her own fucking fault?! She saw herself as above Solas, so she refused to heed his warnings, and then Elgar'nan killed her because Elgar'nan's a bitch.
And then if you pick the good ending, and Solas sees her again, you cannot tell me that his reaction to her is not one of someone who has been abused being confronted by their abuser. The way he curls around the dagger...Mythal, when I get my hands on you, Mythal...And then she says, "I release you from my service." Bitch. I wanted my Lavellan to punch her ghost with her prosthetic hand so fucking bad, lmao.
Solas was a spirit of wisdom! And she corrupted him from his purpose. If he had stayed a spirit, he would have become a pride demon because of her manipulations.
Cole has a couple of lines in DAI that I can't stop fucking thinking about.
"He didn't want a body, but she asked him to come. He left a scar when he burned her off his face."
And, "He wants to give wisdom, not orders."
Solas gets to be himself in Inquisition. He gets to return to giving wisdom. Regardless of whether or not you're romancing him, if you're not a dick to him, he offers these beautiful stories about the Fade, and GDL does a fucking incredible job of making each of them sound poetic as fuck. And he's so kind to all the companions. Even Vivienne who has so much contempt for him, and he tries to offer her advice when he notices things about her magic that he finds...unsettling, lmao. Like their interaction about her staff's aura and him being like, "Are you sure that's the aura you want your staff to have, I can cleanse it for you?" And she's just like, "Yup." And he just lets it go.
When he leaves the Inquisition, Solas forces himself to be what Mythal made him. Which makes the line, "You are Mythal's creature now!" so distressingly ironic.
People talk about how he hates the Dalish elves, and Qunari, but that's just factually inaccurate. He's frustrated by the Dalish because he spent how many years fighting to free the elves from the influence of the Evanuris, only to wake from uthenera to find that he is the villain in all their tales, and the Evanuris are regarded as gods. And when he tried to tell a clan the truth, they tried to kill him! And he doesn't hate the Qunari, he hates the Qun. He hates that under the Qun, people do not get to make their own decisions.
Iron Bull's biggest fear is becoming a rabid Tal'Vashoth, and he expresses as much to Solas. And if you play as a Qunari, Solas points out in party banter that Inky isn't rabid.
If you have Iron Bull side with the Chargers, Solas checks in on Bull several times in party banter, assuring Bull he won't become like the Tal'Vashoth that he fought in Seheron. Because Bull has the Inquisition, and his friends, and Solas. And then they play mental chess, and if that's not friendship, idk what is.
And his interactions with Sera, who doesn't think she's elfy enough, so she makes fun of elfy things as a defence mechanism, are fucking hilarious. The way he gets her to talk about the Fade by asking her about the Breach, and what she sees when she looks at it, and you kinda see that Sera is a lot more elfy than she realizes. And then when she realizes it and gets mad, he basically tells her it's payback for her filling his bedroll with lizards. And she just fucking giggles and is like, "yeah, fair." (These two are my absolute favorite characters in DAI and I would die for either of them, lmao) But he kinda makes her connect with her heritage even though she doesn't want to, and I think that's good for her.
Solas also gets angry with Blackwall, not for lying about actually being Thom Rainier, but because Blackwall led his men into fights, and to their deaths in many instances, for nothing more than his greed. And then he APOLOGIZES for that interaction. And Blackwall tells him it's fine, that Solas was right, and he deserved it. And then Solas commends him for taking the first step towards redemption by owning his past and his mistakes.
And then there's him and Varric constantly joking about having to clean up messes made by humans, and "Why are an elven apostate and a dwarf here, again?" Their interactions are some of my favorites, and it's why I firmly believe that if there had been one more wolf statuette to find, it would have been his regret over Varric's death.
Solas deserved better than having Mythal as a "friend." She manipulated and corrupted him. And then let him take the fall for things that she did. She regrets NOTHING about what they did to the Titans. Meanwhile, it's one of his biggest regrets.
Anyway, I love the Egg, and I hate Mythal. That is all. I hope Solas and my Lavellan Inky get to have plenty of Fade-ordered therapy. They both fucking need it.
#solas dragon age#solas#solavellan#veilguard spoilers#dragon age veilguard#mythal#can i fight mythal#in a 7/11 parking lot?#she earned catching these hands
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i can't believe solas has like four messy as hell divorces and rook gets thrown in the middle of all of them
#dragon age#solas#datv spoilers#to me solas just collects divorces and i think thats his funniest trait. mythal felassan lavellan and varric are all his exes to me.#and rook isn't safe from ANY of them.#i guess its 3 or 4 depending on world state. romanced lavellan isn't even my canon inquisitor but its funnier to include it#every conversation solas has with anyone else is just 'mom and dad are fighting again'#you know actually if you're funny enough you can include elgar'nan in this too. and i am now.
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i cannot be thinking about solas dragon age and taashath adaar right now i just woke up. i cannot be doing this rn.
#thinking about taashath and solas is so dangerous what do you mean they still both love and care about each other so much but#theyre both on opposing sides of a fight that will decide the fates of their homes. neither one of them can give in. not after#everything they have done and sacrificed to get this far#not friends not lovers not divorced not enemies but something far far worse.#im unwell ab them#in my ending for them they both end up in the fade after one of my rooks stabs solas with the dagger with intent to kill.#taashath drags him into the fade to save him– trapping them both.#she was dying of the anchor too but in the fade.. maybe theres a second chance for them both#it DOES mean that vivienne is left alone back in the waking world and i havent forgiven myself for it#there is sort of a role reversal of mythal and solas with solas and taashath and it makes him want to khs btw. he never wanted#that for her.
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them portraying flemythal giving her godly power to solas in da:i as a murder and as her going "this will not soothe your guilt" in da:tv is so weird to me because it's clear mythal wanted him to avenge her? she gave him her power knowing what he intends to do? i also think the regret remnant of her that holds all that anger appearing is so good because yeah. flemythal & morythal has moved on. she has lived and will continue on. the fragment of mythal that was betrayed by her husband, and then by her general / knight / friend who destroyed the world she built and it's people who is permanently trapped and isolated from even the chance at growth would be the one to hold that grudge and hold him back.
but also having rook petition mythal, pleading solas' case when we should've had an actual quest with him facing his regret and then asking her forgiveness to release him from this self made prison and grief because morrigan showing up going heyyyyy bestie heres a shard of old mythal who'd jump your ass if i wasn't here was so ??? boring and lame. like i get the ending is him facing all his failings, betraying rook, betraying the inq (in any context romanced or high approval friendship), and then the betrayal that started it all when mythal died he plunged the world she made into darkness and would do so again even though it would not undo her murder or his own choice of going against his nature of wisdom when he said he would join as a soldier and craft her the dagger to gain power. but also. he spends like all his time in the REGRET PRISON surely we couldve had ONE quest w rook there w him for some semblance of growth instead of an AH FUCK WE GOTTA WRAP THE GAME UP QUICK!!!
#also the ending feels like a longwinded intervention#first rook is like u can do this#and then inq is like its ok u can do this#n then morrigan is like damn ok here u go heres ur repentance bitch and that vers of mythal just evaporates#n solas is like oh ok. im fine now. veil no crumbling :)#EVEN THO IT'S CRUMBLING??#sorta just bc that petitioners quest is so fucking stupid why would rook gaf#the redemption ending however u play it is so rushed and unserious to me#inq sitting back n then walking out like heyyy how y'all doing#same w morrigan 😭😭 they were just talking shit ab him while he was fighting for his life i bet#mythal#dragon age thoughts#datv spoilers#datv critical
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I was tagged by @contrivedcoincidences6 to make my OCs this picrew!! Thank you for tagging me, I finally got it done lol!!!
Iseya Tabris: A headstrong and compassionate duelist/assassin rogue. Blunt, and sometimes vengeful, to those who show corruption, incompetence, or cross her; but endlessly kind to those in need. Absolutely did not want to get married, but always wore Nelaros's ring to honor his sacrifice and as a reminder (yes, I did full ass sacrifice a whole item spot for this in game the whole game). Iseya thought she would always sacrifice anything for her family and people, including her found family and her lover Alistair. She was prepared to die to stop the blight, and would have if not for Morrigan's offer.
*Hilariously I named my Warden years prior to the release of The Last Flight novel, but it really added a great element to her character.
Marian Hawke: A two-handy Reaver Purple Hawke who loves her family especially her sister. Even Gamlen grows on her after the death of her monther as she finally is worn down enough to see him better. Marian starts off as a confident sassy jokster who tries her best to make a new life, but as the years go on and she loses and lose and loses, her jokes become a coping mechanism. A mean streak also appears. By the end she's so tired and depressed that she doesn't even notice Anders pulling away from her. She spares and stands by him anyway because she needs this one thing to stay in her life.
*I just really like the default Hawke Names, I think they fit Hawke really well.
Shiren'ne Lavellen: A compassionate, kind, yet firm and decisive person, Shiren'ne prepared her whole life to become a worthy Keeper for her clan. Yet after she ends up with a new calling she takes it with stride, understanding her role in the world is now beyond just her people, but she always rebuffs being sent by Andraste and stands by her gods. Shiren'ne's favourite thing about the Inquisition was getting to know everyone and learn so much about other cultures and customs, and was always happy to share and demonstrate her Dalish culture (within reason). And although she had been so ready to be Keeper and she is Dalish to her core, after everything she knew she could never return and instead found a new quiet life with Cullen. Shiren'ne prefers slower ritual and practical magics and leans towards old nature and healing (I wish spirit healer had been a subclass), but is eager to learn about the fade, spirits, and the journey of ones soul after death, showing this by choosing vallaslin for Falon'Din.
*Took some research, but her name essentially means Voice of the Journey. She chose the name herself for her Valleslin ceremony as part of accepting and stepping into her role as First.
No pressure tag to @wolfwhisperertf, @the-nameless-nerd, and anyone else who wants to ❤️
#this took so much longer to than it should have and I wrote so much more than expected#pls see more info and fun fact in tags if interested#also Contrivedcoincedences6 you and I made such similar hawkes and inquisitors#i had to rewrite them so many times to not feel like I just straight copied you#love that tho#Iseya Tabris being named after a city elf warden hero of the previous blight only to then become the hero of the 4th blight#also using dubious magic to win the day because they both knew they would do anything to end it is so delicious#that really fell into my favour huh lol#also if what i read is correct its even funnier because Tabris means 'person who embodies the soul/ideal/personality of a previous person'#its just too good#My Hawke also genuinely kinda respects the Arishok and is bummed to fight him but greatfull he's being honorable about it#also she ends up super disappointed in Aveline for becoming what she wanted to fix#Bethany is with the wardens and while Hawke is glad she's alive she also know its not where Bethany wants to be and feels so guilty#Shiren'ne's post Inquisition feeling are very much Frodo about the shire after his journey#Her purpose and experience and soul are just so changed she can never truly go back no matter how much she may want to#The first time I played Inquisition my lavellen had mythal vallaslin and it fits the story really well#but when i went to do my world state replay for veilguard I decided to go Falon'Din instead as the Vallaslin called to me#it changed how I played my lavellen so much but in all the best ways I love how she is now#also her being essentially Ameridan's shadow is so poetic#dragon age ocs#dragon age
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alright so now that we’ve gotten some actual crumbs, it feels like it’s a good time to lay out my prediction for what da4 is going to look like. writing this in a letter and mailing it to myself
we are part of an underground organization formed from the ruins of the inquisition to stop solas from ending the world
meanwhile the wardens have been researching the blight/the location of the archdemons and discover some secret about the location of the black city/what is actually contained in it
we’re supposed to be shocked at the reveal that the evanuris are trapped in the black city and the maker doesn’t exist
the ancient elves were in control of some crazy mutating technology (like in hormak) and that was the original source of the darkspawn. the whole thing about them being from the deep roads and a dwarf concern was actually just a red herring, they’re just underground because they’re powered by lyrium and this has ALSO been an elf thing the whole time :)
anyway, now we need to Double Make Sure the veil stays up because the evanuris have something even worse cooking up in the black city and we need to prevent them from unleashing a super blight and destroying all life, and our job is to convince solas to give up, not because we disagree with his plan but because his actions will have unintended consequences. even if he doesn’t care about everyone else and wants to rebuild the world, he won’t even be able to do THAT because the super blight will kill elves too. so although we WERE enemies we will have to band together to defeat the greater threat etc. it will be optional to recruit him as an ally/advisor, or you can just fight him directly and take control of his forces
we will have to cross into the fade AGAIN and storm the black city directly to put a stop to whatever’s going on in there
#i feel fairly confident about this but i hope i’m wrong honestly.#i’m a little disappointed that it’s probably going to turn out to be ‘elves are the most important people and also the cause of everything#and their lore is the Correct one’#i hope to god that they give you the option to fight him and don’t just force you to make nice for no reason lol#ESPECIALLY if this is a new protagonist with no history with him#it’s pretty much the same formula as inquisition and origins. two-step problem where the thing we initially set out to fix turns out to be#the least of our problems and we’ll need to put aside our differences for the greater good#it will probably also come out that the tevinter gods are also an elf thing. like how flemythal can turn into a dragon#and then the archdemons were the original hormak style experiment. or something#and we won’t have an explanation for the maker bc that’s just humans being silly. but see everything has a neat scientific explanation :)#or maybe the maker is like. elgarnan in disguise lmal#i am perhaps being a little ungenerous but also. i feeel in my gut that this is what they’re planning#mine#dragon age#da4#ghilannain feels like a possible candidate bc of the lore abt how she created halla. but there was that trailer with a mans voice#so it will probably be elgarnan because he’s the head of the pantheon especially now that mythal is gone#GOD i hope that comes up#they’re pulling so much from trespasser. a dlc that wasn’t even the main game and lots of people may not have played#they’d better reference the stinger ending of the actual game and give some resolution to that#maybe it’s going to be like. solas’s plan to take care of the evanuris when the veil comes down is to just absorb them#but we need to convince him that they’ve had time to set other contingencies up so even that won’t stop whatever they’ve started
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i wish i 1. Could make cool video edits 2. Had a coold computer that could take the hd modes of datv w my rook cuz i am full of ideas but i don't have the Tools
#anyways if anyone out here Does make video edits for datv#1. solas edit of oh ana by mother mother#2. rook v solas edit to hell born shove / impossible by walkways#3. i feel like theres a lot of good bits of apeshit by the sound of animals fighting that works for rook Or solas#ig consider these for playlists too if yall care abt that stuff#dazen talks dragon age#in tags mostly but#still#daze.txt#i had another one but i forgot it#neve x rook or lucanis x rook or neve x lucanis to stray italian greyhound would be good#but mb more fitting for an animatic#mb rook w other companions depending on your own rook its just. when it works that song Hits#can you tell /i'm/ working on playlists lmao#EDIT I HAVE ANOTHER ONE.#day that i ruined your life by boston manor for solavellan (from solas pov)#maybe throw in some mythal comparison tastiness idfk#(i never rly did much w solavellan but hes so fucked up and pathetic it compels me)#(this is not an own or insult on solas if thats ur thing i just find the narrative interesting is what i mean)#last addition: impress your creators by tub ring. all around good datv song
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Before Veilguard's release I was theorizing the Veilguard companion characters might have been designed to be parallels to the known Evanuris, but I couldn't place all of them.
Now that I've played the game (almost twice) I think I've figured them all out.
Rook - Elgar'nan, the leader. Controller of light and dark. The one who influences the others.
Neve - Mythal, who can be a fierce protector or a source of inspiration and hope.
Harding - Andruil, the hunter, who went mad from the Void and had to fight her way back
Bellara - June, the inventor. Master of magical artifact.
Lucanis - Dirthamen, keeper of secrets, who mastered the twin ravens of Fear and Deceit, and returned from death.
Davrin - Ghilan'nain, Master of Monsters, Keeper of Halla.
Emmrich - Falon'Din, the necromancer. Friend of the dead.
Taash - Sylaise, who's fire cannot be quenched.
Which leaves Solas to play the role he always has - Fen'Harel, the trickster and betrayer, who could ally with them, if only they will listen to his advice and try to protect their world as best as they can.
#dragon age#solas#dragon age the veilguard#dragon age: the veilguard#da:tv#da:tv spoilers#dragon age meta#evanuris
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With his romance with Lavellan, Solas learned a horrific truth—that him simply as a humble man was enough to be lovable. He had been plied out of the Fade by Mythal because of her need for him, and out of devotion, he became something more and dreadful for himself, for her. And she never reciprocated that devotion with the same intensity. He spent millennia fighting for her as a thing he detested—a man of war and death, a being whose mortal body imbued him with innate qualities and emotions that would further twist his Wisdom nature. He was producing the very poisons that would normally corrupt a spirit by virtue of [Being a Person]. The external influences now harbored inside him.
But Lavellan showed him. That being you are, the one that wished to ponder and reminisce of spirits, who valued liberty and freedom and knowledge and the wry observation? That was enough. That was always enough. But he can’t accept it, because millennia of being Fen Harel, being devoted to Mythal and her cause.. to sunder it from himself would feel like a magnificent loss. He has been that for so long, is there anything yet truly left of the Wisdom spirit that once was?
Not only that, but given corporeality, Solas is compelled by the operant [If I can, I must]. He CAN do something about the Veil, so he will. If he doesn’t, then he is forsaking the memory of those he destroyed with his choice. He is forsaking his own principles. To do nothing in the face of injustice and cruelty is a sin he cannot bear.
He comes to the Inquisition as a “humble apostate”, both as disguise and because in his de-powered state he is of little greater use (if he had greater power I’m certain he would have nudged the Inquisition toward their goals). This is a costume he is wearing, or so he tells himself. He exists to advise, to suggest, to subtly direct toward more peaceful and humanitarian and spirit-friendly directives. He operates as something reminiscent of his former [Wisdom] spirit state.
And Lavellan grows to love it, to appreciate it. She grows to appreciate [Solas as Wisdom]. That part of him, the part of him that he has put aside for thousands upon thousands of years, though his nature craves to return to it. Without his ability to be Fen’Harel, it is pretty much all he has. And oh, this mayfly mortal born of a “forsaken ignorant people”, she is drawn to him, seeing him as a [man], seeing him at his (comparatively) weakest, most ineffectual state and finding it pleasing. Desirable. [Enough].
Enough. He is enough as Solas, simply Solas. But if it is enough for Lavellan, why was it not enough for Mythal? No, no, there was a reason. There was a war. War requires more of people. It requires limits to be broken and terrible mantles to be donned.
But Lavellan is fighting an existential war against Corypheus. And she does not demand more of him. She values what little he is able to provide—guidance, insight, his magic. It is [Enough].
We Solavellans have dissected and discussed at length about the nature of the relationship being one built on deceit, the moral and ethical quandary of love cultivated under a false identity. Veilguard has confirmed the existential struggle and quiet agony that Solas experienced by transitioning into [Being]. While Lavellan should of course had been informed of his ‘true identity’ before falling in love with him, an argument could still be made that Fen’Harel is not his true identity but a long-worn mask that he wishes he could ditch. The man Lavellan fell in love with is who he should be, who he wants to be. Far more underpowered than he’s comfortable with, sure, but the personality for certain. Just a person giving advice, discussing at length about topics he enioys, exploring memories and ruminating over them, smirking over small verbal sleights of hand and sly tricks, engaging in philosophical debates. All of that is already there, that is who he is in peacetime. The man has known war and conflict for so long that he has mentally split Solas and Fen’Harel as two people, because he needed to, but they are the same. Solas who wields the martial prowess of Fen’Harel. Fen’Harel who possesses the wry levity and artistic sentimentality of Solas. SOLAS YOU ARE BOTH AND MORE THAN THESE TWO HALVES.
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“You came here to help, Solas. I won’t let them use that against you.” Hits so much harder now that we’ve learned his origin.
He was wildly happy in the fade. Content to watch and wonder about the waking world from afar. Then Mythal comes to him, begs him to join her in the real world because she needed his wisdom. She needed his help. He knows there is no true wisdom in seeking a physical form, but to help, he takes one anyway. And it is used against him. Mythal uses his gentle nature as a weapon and it twists him into something unrecognizable. Then, when he in turn begs her to accompany him back to the fade, she does not return his loyalty.
Then he meets Lavellan a thousand years later and that^^ is one of the first things she says to him. After JUST meeting him, mind you.
And the look on his face….

He knows she means it.
All these years later and my heart is still finding new ways to break for these two. I can only imagine how brutal his internal struggle became after meeting her. Whatever remained of his original purpose started putting up a real fight again. She was hope.
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Bloom (my Lavellan that is a lavellan but also not. Long story) is literally SO pissed. In her mind she says “IT’S ON SIGHT IF I SEE YOU AGAIN, MYTHAL.” For once, she wishes she had the power Solas does so she could actually stand a chance in defeating Mythal 1v1. But she also knows Solas probably wouldn’t want that, so she won’t.
But she will roast that woman and argue SO fucking hard. She does not stand for abusers since she herself AND her twin brother were abused in the past (super long story) and she cannot stand it. Especially when it’s someone she loves.
She didn’t say it in the ending of DATV, but everyone could see the anger and disgust on her face when she saw Solas’s shoulders hunched over and how he almost handed her the dagger. It’s on sight if she sees Mythal again.
Also, Rook tells her how Mythal claimed she was a mother and Bloom is like “I NEVER want to hear her say that again.” Bloom is an adoptive mom of a human and ALSO twins with Solas (before DATV--again long story about her kids) and she could never imagine doing all the shit Mythal did. It disgusts her so deeply that she says that. She literally would start a very bad verbal argument with Mythal and not hold back her roasts. Solas is gonna have to hold her back LMAO.
Oh GOD he didn’t want to become this, he didn’t WANT TO!! He was terrified!! Ohhhhh MYTHAL. I hate her. Ohhh I hate her I hate her.
#Bloom is pissed. she does NOT stand for abuse. she went through hell all her life#seeing someone she loves go through it??? absolutely not. even if Solas tries to defend Mythal for whatever reason#she will actively argue and try to get Solas to break through his rose colored glasses of Mythal. he already knows her faults#but she needs him to SEE HOW SHE TREATED HIM AND HOW BADLY SHE WAS. SHE NEEDS HIM TO REALIZE HOW ABUSED HE WAS.#REALIZE HE’S NOT INNOCENT (he still did do terrible things and attempted to in the present) BUT THAT SHE UNDERSTANDS WHY.#UGHH SHE LOVES HIM SOOO MUCH. She’s a spirit of Hope deep down so she WILL heal his wounds that her magic (and no magic) can’t.#she will give her hope to his despair.#ugh I love Solavellan and can never leave😭😭#solavellan#solas x lavellan#lavellan x solas#dragon age the veilguard#EDIT: and it’s not JUST for solas. ANY members of her family (friends she considers family) going through something??? she will fight for#them. she loves SO deeply.
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knowing the truth about solas being a spirit and regretting it, and being responsible for the tranquility of the titans and loss of connection to the Stone makes. me. insane when looking back on his conversations with varric. and just their relationship on the whole.
"why do the dwarves not know? why have they forgotten? did someone make them forget? how can they not care what i did to them?"
"do you miss the stone? do you know what i took from you?"
"look at what i did to you. your people are mutilated, forever forced to change from what they once were. and i did this to you."
"you don't even know what i did to you. the horrific crime i comitted against you and your people. you have no idea what you lost or what i did. you're not even angry at me. why aren't you angry at me?"
"you should be angry at me and trying to restore what i took. how can you continue on the way that you are? how are you even whole?"
and then we have harding's comment in da:tv
this comment from harding, after all of the conversations with varric, in hindsight, really does highlight something about solas. for all his guilt and regret, being practically one of if not THE only person who knows what truly happened to the titans. being one RESPONSIBLE-
at no point does he make attempts to fix that until he is convinced to potentially at the end of da:tv.
his conversations with varric are clearly some self projections, and wondering how varric can't be like HIM- he DOES know what the elves lost and what was done, and so he DOES want the old world to be restored. it's to absolve himself of his own guilt, along with trying to fix his mistake. how can he NOT fight? how can his own people not see what they lost and not try to put it back? he has to undo what he did.
but he never does this for the dwarves.
he often will say how he doesnt relate to the elves, and how when asking him 'who are your people', he avoids the topic. because the elves are NOT his people. he is a spirit! and his priorities always align with one simple thing:
that he regrets being made flesh. if he could go back to being a spirit, if all the elves could, if it could all just go back to the way it was before, everything would be fine!
it takes at least four people at the end of da:tv to make him see that this is ultimately selfish and unrealistic. that no amount of regret or attempts to put things back the way they were will undo what he did. in his obsession with self absolution, he completely forgets about the titans, and the blight, all being because of HIM.
he talks to varric, he talks to harding, all the while knowing what he did and being oh so sad about it but never stops to think. wow i actually may have the power to help with this!
he is so, SO focused on his own crusade for himself while also convincing himself that it's for the greater good. telling himself that oh! this time his great plans for the 'right thing' will go well, surely! the last few times, with the titans, and the blight, getting mythal killed, the sealing away the evanuris and changing the world because he messed up the ritual, then trying to awaken his orb only to give it to an immortal blighted magister that explodes the veil- those were all just! flukes! this one will go right FOR SURE!
and is that not just very similar to varric? how varric repeatedly also makes mistakes, and then doesn't face them? he brought hawke into the deep roads and put them in danger, possibly got their sibling blighted, brought back the red lyrium which led to (gestures) all THAT, introduced hawke to anders which led to (gestures) BOOM, led hawke to corypheus, told bianca about the deep roads which led to corypheus getting his hands on red lyrium.
but their key difference? varric simply accepts his mistakes and attempts to do better the next time. varric accepts that the past cannot be changed, no matter how badly he regrets it. he has to move on, he has to do better, he is still here, people are still here, and theyre worth trying for.
"That's the world. Everything you build, it tears down. Everything you've got, it takes. And it's gone forever."
"The only choices you get are to lie down and die or keep going. He kept going. That's as close to beating the world as anyone gets."
like of course. of course solas couldnt keep rook inside a prison of regret by using varric as the catalyst! because that's just not who varric is! that's who solas is. solas saw parts of himself in varric, but didn't listen enough to what varric has always been saying. he never does! he doesn't self reflect, he doesn't consider, truly consider that he's wrong until he is being held at knifepoint and confronted with the literal specters of his past telling him to stop fucking self flagellating and convincing himself that he knows best or that this isn't just out of self pity. 'it's for the elves', he says every morning when he wakes up.
for all solas' wisdom, he truly is poisoned by pride and regret. it's just so. (clenches fist)
he spent all this time using varric's memory, surely he is familiar enough with how varric thinks and feels at this point? surely he undersands now?
you have to stand with him at the edge of the world, teetering on the edge of the abyss and decide if he's worth putting in the effort to make him truly take everything varric said and did to heart. to take what we have now and make it better, instead of dragging a corpse of guilt around for eternity.
#dragon age#dragon age the veilguard#dragon age veilguard#veilguard spoilers#SORRY IM BEING INSANE THEIR RELATIONSHIP MAKES ME INSANE!!!!
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DAVG Extracted Audio Masterlist
All files were extracted by me using Wavenend's Alpha Frosty Mod Editor. Tutorials on how to open and extract audio can be found here and here.
I will update this post as I extract more audio files. The latest posts will always be added to the bottom of their respective sections.
Extracted audio tag: #datv audio
Companion comments:
Companions struggling with the gate during Blood of Arlathan
Companions cheering Rook on and dunking on Illario during his boss fight
What home smells like (Crossroads comments)
Ghilan'nains's comments about Rook's romances at the Crossroads (and their reactions)
Companions being protective of Lucanis during the Bloodbath
Companions reacting to pretending to be Spirits of Disruption during Solas's memory
Companions' (and Rook's) comments about the chantry in Treviso
Final mission deaths:
Teia's comments about companions fallen in the final battle
Evka and Antoine's comments about companions fallen in the final battle
Isabela's comments about companions fallen in the final battle
Illario's comment if Lucanis dies in the final battle
Companions commenting on each other's deaths: Bellara, Davrin, Harding, Lucanis, Neve, Taash, Taash x Harding romance, Neve x Lucanis romance
Teia calling Lucanis her brother when he dies assisting the Crows
Lines from dead companions in the epilogue
Changes in Teia and Viago's ambient dialogue if the companion assigned to help the Crows dies
Mini overworld events:
Taash helping a qunari woman at the Treviso market
Isabela's comment on Emmrich romance
Bellara and Davrin giving money to a poor elven man in Treviso
Bellara recognising (Felassan's?) insignia on the undead at the Crossroads
Cut/inaccessible content:
Varric's cut lines about letters delivered to the Lighthouse
Rook interacting with a wolf at the Fen'Harel altars
Varric's old lines from the intro animatic
Rook using the lyrium dagger as a key
Time limit on the Evanuris altars
Lines for forgiven Illario before the final battle if Treviso was blighted
Cut dialogue from Elgar'nan and Solas's verbal fight during Blood of Arlathan
Davrin successfully completing the assignment with the Antivan Crows during the final mission
Neve successfully killing Aelia alongside the Antivan Crows during the final mission
The Caretaker complaining about companions fighting
Dialogue reactivity regarding Rook's race/faction:
Bellara asking Qunari Rook why they can't breathe fire like Taash
Elf Rook understanding Solas's words during the Blood of Arlathan
Rook Mercar and Rook De Riva commenting on spies during Coffee with the Crows
Rare dialogue:
Emmlich and Harding discussing their camping trip
Lucanis's gifts for Davrin, Taash, and Emmrich
Taash's combat lines for romanced Rook after they are rescued from the Regret Prison
The Caretaker commenting on Rook visiting/leaving the island with the fragment of Mythal and the result of the confrontation with her
Differences in the final dialogue with romanced bllighted Bellara if you didn't complete Cyrian's funeral
Lines about the future of the elves you can hear in the final dialogue with Bellara if you completed all her personal quests EXCEPT for Cyrian's funeral
Misc:
Varric notifying Rook about new available companion quests
Companion ambient themes
Inquisitor Character Creation OST - Fade Sacrifice
The Caretaker saying "Enchantment" :)
#flowers.txt#datv audio#do you guys have any idea about how much I like making masterlists#I truly thrive on this website
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my toxic trait is that i never forgave any version of mythal for the morrigan crimes including the versions of mythal who apparently literally did not do that. so i failed to persuade the mythal fragment in veilguard to help without a fight and wasn’t even mad. a bit pleased i admit it. like okay girl i’ve been killing your dragon form since origins i can do this all day
#veilguard spoilers#flemythal is fun to have on screen but i’ll still tear her asunder when given the opportunity idgaf.#play stupid games win stupid prizes
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I get being a fan of Solas but you gotta appreciate Lavellan herself too. She’s the other half of the ship and part of what makes Solavellan so fascinating to me. Sure, you can play Cadash or Adar or Trevelyan and get something interesting but there’s something so compelling about Lavellan as the Inquisitor.
All Inky’s can be kind, caring, compassionate, but it takes a special level of strength to be kind after losing everything. Lavellan is taken from her old life, turned into a religious symbol for her oppressors, and stripped of her identity and culture. There is an undeniable alienation she experiences, both from the shemlen, and then from her own beliefs (and her People/Clan) as she goes through the events of the game; she learns that the history she worked so hard to study and preserve was built on the backs of slaves, that her gods were tyrants and slavers, and that Fen’Harel’s name was ruined through millennia of propaganda and perpetuated lies. She is changed from her time as the Inquisitor and from falling in love with Solas—mentally, physically, and spiritually. She fell in love with the god, with the monster, her people were taught fear, and as the stories go, Fen’Harel’s touch leaves you forever marked.
The Dread Wolf’s name is not worshipped in reverence; it is invoked in fear, in anger—it is a curse, reviled, and spit like the most corrosive of poisons.
But that isn’t who Lavellan falls in love with. Just like the Inquisitor, Fen’Harel is a title and mask worn by a broken man forced into a role he didn’t want.
She was taken, twisted, turned into something she didn’t want, but she did not let it break her. The world had taken so much from her time and time again, yet they continued to demand. She gave up her home, her life, eventually her friends, and even the very organization she dedicated everything to. Forced to make decisions that shed as much blood as it saved. The rest of her life was spent in pursuit of a man looking to end the world, long after she’s already saved it once before. She holds her head high and bears the weight of the world like she was Atlas himself. The Inquisitor bends and bows, but never does she break. Despite this, despite it all, she still remains kind. And Solas? Sweet, gentle Solas. His heart is still so kind but he’s hardened it.
A romanced Lavellan wants to help Solas, to save him from himself. She sees the mask for what it is and knows the man—the spirit—hiding behind it all. Wisdom, taken from his home, turned into a weapon and then a symbol—a god. Forced to fight for what is just, Fen’Harel breaks under the trauma wrought upon him and by him.
He is weighed down by duty and service—to Mythal and to his People. The world was broken by his actions, and he seeks to rend another to restore what was sundered.
Wisdom was lost, turned to Pride. It hides under the guise of Fen’Harel because he believes it is not what the world needs.
The Evanuris claim that Fen’Harel is a wolf in sheep’s clothing, when he was a weapon forged by their own hand.
Lavellan chooses to walk the Dinan’shiral with Solas. Maybe for some, it is because they, too, believe the Veil must come down, and the world restored to its natural state. But, as loredrinker said in their fantastic post, it may be because of connection. They see that Solas is suffering; that he’s been alone. This path would break what was left of the gentle Wisdom underneath it all. The Path of Death, he called it.
She said so herself: “I will save you.”
She walks the Dinan’shiral, not as Solas does, but parallel to him. She does not walk it expecting to reap death, but to stop it. They’ve both experienced loss—lived through horrors no being should ever experience. Leaders, symbols—burdens taken on by shoulders that shouldn’t bear them alone.
And Lavellan will not allow Solas to bear this alone. As she had done with her friends in the Inquisition, she is offering him connection. She will ease his burden if he would let her. Despite the isolation she no doubt feels, she makes sure none of her friends ever feel alone. She supports each of them, gives them a shoulder to lean on, and takes their pain as her own because that’s just who she is.
I will bear this weight with you. You are my heart. We walk this path together. Pain, terror, a terrible future, but you do not have to go alone.
And in the end, the wolf finally takes it. And oh, what a relief it must be after all this time. Millennia, suffering. Alone, lonely, on a path he set for himself, believed to end in eternal isolation. After all, Solas’ worst fear is dying alone.
But no. This is not your fate, vhenan. Ar lath ma.
#i will never be as eloquent as the others that make solas or lavellan meta posts#but i just wanted to put this out there#had a rant on discord and my non solavellan friends are always subject to me crying lol#i can share more of my thoughts#if anyones interested#i just love these two so much#lavellan is a stronger woman than i am#anyway coming up is how solas helped me realize im omnisexual and why i think he is too lol#thats a joke#unless someones genuinely interested#solas dragon age#solas#solavellan#lavellan#inquisitor lavellan#lavellan dragon age#dragon age inquisition#dragon age#dai#dav#dragon age veilguard#solas meta#lavellan meta#lavellan appreciation#solavellan hell#solavellan heaven#fenharel#fen’harel#the dread wolf#inquisitor
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is Solas bad at plans?
We joke about this but I actually don't think Solas is that bad at plans! His problem has always been not the plans themselves but the fact that he insists on working alone, even though the kinds of things he's trying to achieve are simply not things that anyone could realistically achieve alone.
The Veil, for example - in a way that was very ingenious and presumably an incredible feat of magic. And it allowed him to single-handedly defeat seven extremely powerful enemies in one fell swoop! The real problem with what he did is that we know from Felassan's writings that he had withdrawn from his allies after Mythal's death and planned this whole thing alone, and he just shouldn't have tried to fight a battle like that alone. The plan itself was probably the best he could have done by himself, but he didn't need to be by himself in this.
Similarly the orb and Corypheus - if he'd been willing to trust people he could surely have found some powerful mages to help him open the orb voluntarily, but because he didn't want to ask anyone to help he had to trick someone into doing it, and the rest is history. Similarly in the ritual at the beginning of Veilguard, the biggest problem with his plan is ultimately that he didn't tell anyone what he was doing or what the stakes were.
This is such a fascinating aspect of him for me because you can see that he believes this tendency is a virtue: he thinks it's a good thing that he's taking the responsibility himself and not burdening others with his problems. He says as such to the romanced Inquisitor in Trespasser, if she offers to help: 'It is my fight' and 'I cannot do that to you.' As a very stubbornly independent person myself this aspect of Solas' characterization has always meant a lot to me, because a very important lesson I've had to learn in life is that there are some things that you just cannot do alone, and you end up harming yourself and others if you try.
#dragon age#dragon age veilguard#solas dragon age#solas meta#solavellan#solas#dragon age inquisition
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